SAN DIEGO -- Mark Mulder is out for Game 5 of the National League Division Series. Then again, the odds are against there being a Game 5. And if there is, the odds were strongly against Mulder being the pitcher just the same.

Mulder is still feeling pain and tightness in his upper left arm after being struck by a line drive on Thursday in Game 2 at Busch Stadium. It was a long shot that he would pitch in a fifth game, since it will be on short rest and since Chris Carpenter is likely to take his turn if it comes to that.

The Cardinals will play it conservatively with Mulder for now, with no reason to push him. There's no reason to think he wouldn't be available for a start early in the National League Championship Series, should the Cardinals advance.

"He has a beautiful bruise on it," said head athletic trainer Barry Weinberg. "It's something we'll just have to check on day-by-day. We're doing everything we can. Yesterday, we got ice on it right away, then went to a hot pack to keep it loose.

"He would tighten up between innings, but then when he'd warm up again it would loosen up. He was still making his pitches. The biceps doesn't have a major role in throwing, it's a decelerator. If it had been the triceps, it would have been a bigger problem."

Mulder was in good spirits on Friday. He just wasn't sure when he'd throw again.

"I don't even know when I would be scheduled to pitch again," Mulder said. "It's not like I would need to throw a side [session] tomorrow, put it that way. So I don't think it would be that important.

"I was [more concerned] this morning. I was a little nervous, just because it was so tight. But now that I've been here and we're doing stuff with it, it's a lot looser than when I woke up. That's from four hours on a plane and sleeping on it."

Reyes to see doctor: Al Reyes had hoped to visit with Dr. Lewis Yocum, the Angels' head team physician, this weekend while the Cardinals were in Southern California. However, Yocum traveled with the Angels to New York, so Reyes will wait until early next week to consult with the surgeon on his Tommy John reconstructive elbow surgery.

Assuming that Yocum has space in his schedule, Reyes would like to have the operation next week. He hopes to pitch in the second half of the 2006 season. Relievers have been known to return to the mound within 10 months after Tommy John surgery.

"That's why I can't wait to get it done," Reyes said. "I don't want to wait. That way, if I get surgery this week, then in November I can start to do some movement.

"Dr. [George] Paletta said for a reliever it can be 9-10 months -- if you do your rehab the right way, you go through everything and you don't try to rush."

Hello again: The Cardinals will face off against a former team stalwart and a favorite teammate on Saturday night. Woody Williams, one of the most popular players in recent Cardinals history, will be trying to keep his new team's season alive when he faces his last club. Williams started Game 1 of each of the Cards' three playoff series in 2004.

"You know he's going to go out there and compete. We all know that," said Matt Morris, who was a rotation mate of Williams from 2001-2004. "I was able to witness that over the last couple years. I know Woody's going to go out there, he knows our lineup, he's got a nice advantage."

Said La Russa: "I think it makes it a lot more personal. I mean, whoever you're facing, you know professionally what's at stake. But when you face a guy who's been such a great teammate, we have experienced so much together, it makes it a lot more personal. We know him. He knows us. ... It's definitely a different type of game."

Today in Cardinals postseason history: On Oct. 7, 1982, Bob Forsch and the Cardinals seized control of the National League Championship Series against Atlanta. Forsch pitched a three-hit shutout and did not walk a batter as the Cards won the opener of the best-of-five series, 7-0. Forsch added a pair of base hits, scoring a run and driving one home. Thanks to Project Retrosheet for the information.

Coming up: St. Louis will try to close out its fourth Division Series sweep since the inception of the format when play resumes on Saturday evening. Morris will take the mound for the Cards with a scheduled first pitch of 10:09 p.m. CT.